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itself. >> susie: with all the slings and arrows on capitol hill this week abt the fiscal cliff, americans are finding little to laugh at. and tonight that's got lou thinking about having a sense of humor. here's author and educator lou heckler. >> because i use a lot of humorous stories in the speeches i give, i am often asked: what if you don't have much of a sense of humor? i think we all have the capability to enjoy humor. i also know lots of things get in the way: stressful and exacting jobs, maybe health problems you have or someone close to you has. those are real and they can be barriers. that said, i can't think of anything that keeps life in perspective more than cultivating and usina sense of humor. i remember my mother and dad saying this about someone they admired: he's cool, calm, and collected. i think those three apply to well-placed humor, too. cool brings a burst of fresh air into situations that can get overheated. calm: it's hard to be funny and angry at the same time. if you are both, that's sarcasm. collected: the shortest distance between two people is a
the fiscal cliff and make sure that american families aren't faced with possible larger tax bills come january. >> wouldn't it just make you feel better if you didn't feel the real reason we'll get a fiscal cliff resolution, whether it's a little tinkering or something bigger, wasn't because they actually wanted to be home on christmas? >> i think that they absolutely should try to get this done. i certainly don't think they should go home before the situation is resolved. but i also think that when you are looking at what kind of congress we want, we want a responsive congress. we want a congress rooted in american communities, not inside the beltway. >> look, you just want mondays and fridays off, too, and your trying to make the argument to the national review as to why that is better. >> americans want their leaders to work, period. >> thanks to both of you. we appreciate it. of course, we want all your feedback. >>> next, the billionaire software tycoon john mcafee is wanted in the questioning of the death of his neighbor. martin savidge just literally caught him. he was running,
the break the latest from the political front. the president took his fiscal cliff case directly to the american people. believe me, he was speaking right at you john boehner. it's (vo) as marijuana gains social and legal acceptance, a new pioneer is emerging from the backwoods. >> i'm basically like a farmer. instead of corn, you've got dope. (vo) but what is legal and what is criminal? >> this is, no matter what you do, a violation of federal law. (vo) follow real farmers staking their claim on a new frontier. >> lots of terrible things happen to people growing marijuana. >> this crop to me is my livelihood. >> i have everything invested in this. >> obama: i've been keeping my own naughty and nice list for washington. so you should keep your eye on who gets some correct this year. there are going to be some members of congress who get 'em and on don't. >> jennifer: that was president obama at the connect toy factory factory. he was warning congress they might end up on the naughty list. and he asked republicans to extend the bush era tax cuts for those making less than $250,00
cliff. at least let's fix the fiscal cliff and make sure that american families aren't faced with possible larger tax bills come january. >> wouldn't it just make you feel better if you didn't feel that the real reason we're goeng to get a fiscal cliff resolution, whether tas little tinkering or something bigger wasn't because they wanted to be home for christmas. >> i certainly don't think they should go home before the situation is resolved, but i also think when you're looking at what kind of congress you want, you want a responsive congress, rooted in american communities, not inside the beltway. >> you would want mondays and fridays off, too, and you're trying to make the argument. >> americans want their leaders to work, period. >> thanks to both of you. "outfront" next, breaking news. the billionaire software tycoon is on the run and martin savidge just literally caught him. he was running. he's going join us with that right after this. he's getting it ready for you at this instant and it's going to be a lot harder to spot the things that spot you because we've got dro
to that fiscal cliff and two very lucky americans are a whole lot rier. a look back now at the week that was. >> the fiscal cliff now just 34 days away. >> we only have a couple weeks to get something done. >> this is not a game. >> i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it me way. >> susan rice faces more backlash. >> i still have many questions that remain unanswered. >> there are no unanswered questions. >> somebody somewhere is waking up filthy stinking rich. >> lottery mascot doing gangnum style for us this morning. >> the week centered on a big worry. >> this fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> we could go off this fiscal cliff. >> we are facing a fiscal grand canyon. >> reporter: it's a big deal, question is, can these guys strike a deal? >> i have to repeat, i have a pen. >> reporter: meantime, damage control for u.n. ambassador susan rice, how to smooth things over this week with republicans after those benghazi talking points. >> extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding. >> reporter: the didn't work, now, their talking points. >> we are significantly trou
event in pennsylvania to tout his proposal in the fiscal cliff negotiations saying that the american people made their economic wishes clear on the election day. >> obama: this was a central questions in the election. maybe the central question in the election. you remember. we talked about this a lot. at the end of the day a clear majority of americans--democrats republicans, independents--they agreed with a balanced approach. >> eliot: republicans meanwhile openly deride the president's proposal saying they're the ones taking negotiations seriously. >> the proposal that was delivered here by secretary geithner the speaker and me yesterday was not a serious proposal. >> i mean, it's--it's--it's--it was not a serious proposal. i think the debt crisis that we face requires us to make serious decisions. >> we're not playing a game. we're being serious. >> eliot: bottom line. let's hope there is a different script being played out behind the scenes. joining me now for some serious wisdom is staff reporter for mother jones andy kroll. thank you for joining me tonight. >> my pleasure. >>
, jamie. one month until the fiscal cliff and appears to be little movement, but a lot of talk back and forth and the president used a campaign style appearance to appeal directly to the american people and pushed for immediate action to extend bush era tax cuts for everybody except the more wealthy americans. >> right now congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income, everybody. and that means that 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses wouldn't see their income taxes go up at all. and even the wealthiest americans would get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> but republicans led by house speaker john boehner said the president should quit campaigning and take care of business and some suggest that the president is playing a dangerous game of political brinksmanship. >> i think that the democrats and the president view it to their advantage to run the clock out and dangerously close by the end of the year. if there's a break through, in a short manner, takes a while to get proposals scored by the budget offic
correspondent of "time." with the fiscal cliff on the horizon, americans are learning a lot about the politicians their hired. my final thoughts on this, the tax pledge standing in the way of compromise when we get back. you're watching "your money." helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together for your future. ♪ or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. >>> this is it, the famous tax pledge we have been talking about created by grover norquist back when ronald reagan was president. timed have changed since then. i had hair back then. some lawmakers are starting to understand it's not just low tax rates that matter.
's somewhat abstract. >> how do republicans change that message, because we're in the middle of fiscal cliff negotiations, and all you hear are about preserving tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. that just feeds into this lack of connecting to the middle class that's been a problem. >> here's your answer and it's difficult and nuanced. traditionally republicans economic message that resonated with the middle class is our taxes will be lower on you. democrats have co-opted on that. they promise taxes on the middle class but do it simultaneously with giving high spending that. cannot last forever so republicans have to make people realize that is a utopia that doesn't exist. you can't have low taxes and high spending that democrats are currently promising. >> we've had $520 billion spent on jobless benefits over the past five years, and i bet they are probably pretty evenly divided between republicans and democrats and the big message on government spending has been distorted because we've had a crazy recession. i want to bring in anna because the president built that winning location of a
to peeking over that fiscal cliff and two very lucky americans. they got a whole lot richer. a look back now at the week that was. >> the fiscal cliff, now just 34 days away. >> we only have a couple weeks to get something done. >> listen, this is not a game. >> you'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. >> susan rice faces more backlash. >> i still have many questions that remain unanswered. >> there are no unanswered questions. >> somebody somewhere is waking up filthy stinking rich. >> lottery mascot doing "gangnam style" for us this morning. >> money, politics and the mix dominated this week that was. the week center on a big worry. >> this fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal cliff. >> we could actually go off the fiscal cliff. >> we're facing a fiscal grand canyon. >> okay. so it's a big deal. question is can these guys strike a deal? >> i've got to repeat. i've got a pen. >> meantime, damage control for u.n. ambassador susan rice out to smooth things over with this week with republicans after those benghazi talking point. >> exextremist elements came to the consula
and if the u.s. does over that fiscal cliff what it will mean for the average american taxpayer. senator orrin hatch says disaster. >> if we don't act by the end of year, 28 million more families will be forced to pay the minimum tax. 24 million will be hit with tax and average middle-class family would see their taxes go up by $2,000. >> heather: dominic is financial advisor and joins us. so you say this fiscal cliff, its fiscal nuclear bomb. what are some of the elements that concern you most? >> let's starts with this was something created by congress and signed into law by president obama. so this is not a tsunami that just came by accident, mother nature. this was created by our elected public officials. should it go off, it will be nothing short of a nuclear weapon, a fiscal nuclear weapon. we have not only the increasing of capital gains taxes and marginal tax rates but 26-28 million americans are going to be subject to the alternative minimum tax. that is potentially $3700 additional tax liability. we have the elimination of the 2% social security benefit and up to $55 billion on the s
cliff or fiscal curve. it can end flirtations with fiscal suicide. that the lawrence o'donnell. read my work at wonkblog.com. "the ed show" is up next. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. republicans say they're laughing at president obama's fiscal cliff offer. i'll show you how they're really crying. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> there are no shortage of pens in the white house. and i carry one around for an emergency just in case, waiting for a chance to use it to sign this bill so people's taxes don't go up. >> the adult in the room continues his campaign to cut taxes for the middle class, and john boehner keeps shooting spit balls. >> it was not a serious proposal. >> tonight the latest on the stalemate and the democrats' upper hand. mitch mcconnell gets downright ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care dr. zeke emanuel responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. today, congressman javier on why the latino community won't be fooled.
: lawmakers now have exactly one month to strike a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. tax hikes affecting nearly all americans and across the board spending cuts set to kick in at the end of the year. so far both republicans and democrats are digging in on their demands and neither is putting forth a plan. >> i'm willing to move forward in good faith. our original framework still stands. instead of raising tax rates, we can produce similar amount of revenue reforming the tax code to close loopholes and lower tax rates. that's far better for the economy. >> the clock is ticking. the year is ending. it's really important with tax legislation for it to happen now. we're calling upon the republican leadership in the house to bring this legislation to the floor next week. >> arthel: let's bring in steve centanni with more. >> as you can see, the two sides are taking strong stands on principle, but aren't really getting any closer to a compromise as we speed toward that fiscal cliff. the president hit the road appearing at a pennsylvania toy factory yesterday and appealing for a balanced approach, inc
obama's fiscal cliff offer. i'll show you how they are really crying. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> there are no shortage of pens in the white house. and i carry one around for emergency just in case. just waiting for the chance to use it to sign the bill to make sure people's taxes don't go up. >> the adult in the room continues his campaign to cut taxes for the middle class and john boehner keeps shooting spit balls. the latest on the stalemate and the democrat's upper hand. >>> mitch mcconnell gets ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration. bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. tonight, congressman javier pasara on why the latino community won't. be fooled. >>> the first fast food strike is historic. what you need to know about the lowest-paid workforce in the country. good to have you with us. thanks for watching. president obama knows his opponent is on the ropes and he's not letting up. the president took his tax plan agenda on the road today. he e went to a
, almost every single american is facing the prospect of the fiscal cliff. if we do that act by the end of the year, 28 million families and individuals will be forced to pay the alternative minimum tax. the average middle-class family will see their taxes go up by at least $2,000. economically, if we do not act our nation will fall into it and other painful recession pushing unemployment back up over 9% and putting seniors retirements at risk. the president said he once a so- called balanced approach to solve this crisis. what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. maybe i missed it, but i do not recall him asking for any of that during the presidential campaign. these ideas are so radical, they have already been rejected on a bipartisan basis from congress. the president has an obligation to steer us away from the fiscal cliff and to tackle our $16 trillion debt that is driven by runaway entitlement programs. we have seen an utter lack of leadership from president obama and his allies on the
american is facing the prospect of the fiscal cliff. if we do that act by the end of the year, 28 million families and individuals will be forced to pay the alternative minimum tax. the average middle-class family will see their taxes go up by at least $2,000. economically, if we do not act our nation will fall into it and other painful recession pushing unemployment back up over 9% and putting seniors' retirements at risk. the president said he once a so- called balanced approach to solve this crisis. what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. maybe i missed it, but i do not recall him asking for any of that during the presidential campaign. these ideas are so radical, they have already been rejected on a bipartisan basis from congress. the president has an obligation to steer us away from the fiscal cliff and to tackle our $16 trillion debt that is driven by runaway entitlement programs. we have seen an utter lack of leadership from president obama and his allies on the left have shown very li
the fiscal cliff. our first guest is author of victory at yorktown live in virginia as part of his american legacy tour, former presidential candidate, newt gingrich. welcome back. >> good to be with us. interesting times. sean you have a smile on your face. >> sure. >> sean: a lot of our tpraepbs are not happy about in. >> un reasons i write historical fiction is to remind people that sometimes freedom is difficult, crossing the delaware christmas night in a snow storm was difficult. marching nine miles with a third of the army wearing burlap bags because they had no boots leading a trail of blood, difficult. where are we today? you have a president who believes that he can bully and out-maneuver and out-propagandize the republicans. he believes the republicans will cave. and he's treating them with a level of dis-- disdain and arrogance i think is breathtaking. republicans need to take a big step back. rethink the role of the legislative branch. understand they've gone down a trail that has no positive outcome. a legislative branch does five things: appropriates, legislates, oversight, it
that they're serious on negotiations. >> reporter: as the country fast approaches the fiscal cliff, the two sides are talking past each other. democrats say they've laid down their marker, hiking tax rates on wealthier americans. and it's up to republicans to propose specific spending cuts they want to entitlement programs. however, republicans say they've offered a concession, putting revenue on the table. and they say it's now up to the president and his fellow democrats to feel some pain and proposed cuts in medicare and medicaid. confusing? we asked harry reid. >> where is the disconnect? >> i don't understand his brain. so you should ask him, okay? >> from capitol hill to the white house, democrats are standing firm, saying the major hurdle remains whether to raise tax rates. what's next? where do things go? the top republican aide tells me they look forward to talking to the white house. >> time is still running out, too. >> and quickly. >> with us now are ryan lizza, the new yorker magazine's washington correspondent and cnn's senior political analyst ron bram's team. thank you both
are saying president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff because then taxes go up across the board. >> which is not what the president wants, but there's a big difference between this fiscal cliff and the full faith and credit of the united states. the american government has never defaulted on its debt. and now there are some, not the majority of republicans but some on the extreme of the republican party and they seem to be in control, who seem to want to default on our debt. that's crazy. if they cannot be entrusted with the full faith and credit of the united states, they should not have that leverage. >> paul, where were the overtures though? where were the overtures with this deal that was presented? i mean, listen, you don't have to be mensa to know delivering a deal like that was going to make mitch mcconnell laugh. where were the overtures for the democrats? >> first of all, it is an overture, the deal itself. the proposal. it's not the deal, it's the proposal. the republicans have not come with a counterproposal. why? they seem to be intent on falling on their sword for t
and work with both parties to find common ground. solving the fiscal cliff in a manner that addresses the true drivers of our debt and saves american jobs is a great way for the president to start his second term. and for the good of our country, and my colleagues, we're ready to work with the president to achieve those goals. >> mr. speaker, couple things. first, on the issue of tax rates, are you willing to accept no deal that includes some increase in those top tax rates? and i'm also wondering what our final deadline is on this? when do we really have to have a deal? >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. we're willing to put revenues on the table, but revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions, and not raising rates. we think it's better for the economy. pure and simple. secondly, the american people expect us to find common ground, to work together, and to resolve this. and frankly, sooner is better than later. >
and they will play for us this morning. we begin this morning with the so-called fiscal cliff one from today unless washington gets its act together 90% of americans will see their taxes rise as a series of tax increase and spending cuts take effect. yet negotiations between the white house and congressional republicans are at a standstill. anna werner is in our washington bureau. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. unless congress comes to an agreement on the fiscal cliff it would mean a tax hike plus some $65 billion would be cut from the pentagon and other government agencies. both sides are hoping for a compromise. but so far all there's been is debate. >> i've been keeping my own naughty and nice list for washington. >> reporter: president obama took his fight to the public while visiting a toy company in pennsylvania where he warned republicans not to play scrooge. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable for you for a handful of republicans to hold middle class tax cuts held hostage. >> reporter: the white house proposal includes $4 trill
to do their part to continue campaign. calling on all americans to raise awareness about the fiscal cliff, to get in touch with their congressmen to tweet my2k. here he was doing this in small businessville, pennsylvania just yesterday. >> it's not acceptable to me. i don't think it is acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. that doesn't make sense. >> in addition to rounding up the voters, he deployed tim geithner to the hill. he just know that leader pelosi is letting house democrats know they better not pull a fredo during negotiations. the president's offer was this. $1.6 trillion in tax increases, a hefty $50 billion in mortgage relief, infrastructure investments. extension of unemployment insurance and a deferral of cuts to medication payments to physicians. oh, yeah, no more debt ceiling fights. he is going to take that one off of congress' plate all together. there is a claim of about $400 billion in entitlement savings. they carry no guarantee and
over. forget the fiscal cliff. the real problem is the climate chef. >> i love bill o'reilly. i'm proud to be an american, but i saw this movie chasing i.c.e. today, and it has changed me not only about global warming but as a person. >> cenk: wow, that's not even the elbow of the day. you'll be shocked to find out it's not a republican. ice breakers mints. break the ice. question: why are ice breakers mints called mints? answer in a moment. >> a second pounding storm slams the west coast with a half of foot of rain in san francisco, trees, cars and trucks smashed and another major system on the way this weekend. >> cenk: another major storm--weird huh interesting. i'm here with everybody, michael shure, dorothy lucy, and mark thompson. the climate storms are here, the fire, drought, storms we've suffered through. it's a big issue for those the the americans, but not the politician. there is a report not in terms of the news they had but how dire the situation. the report last night. >> the numbers are staggering. 344 billion metric tons of ice melting in antarctica and green land a yea
to break it with pressure points from the american people pushing republics because republics are now in a defensive posture where if they don't act in the next few weeks and we do fall off that so-called fiscal cliff, taxes will go up on everyone. and the fact is republics against tax increases so the president basically put the pressure on. take a listen. >> a clear majority of americans, democrats, republicans, independents, they agreed with a balanced approach. deficit reduction and making sure that middle class taxes don't go up. folks agreed to that. now, the good news is we are starting to see a few republics coming around to it too. >> now, house democratic leader nancy pelosi put an even finer point on it today saying flatly, elections have consequences suggesting democrats are not going to give in on their push for higher taxes on the rich. shep. >> shepard: by any measure, ed, the president came in strong, even folks on the left are saying it and john boehner seems very unhappy. >> he is unhappy because he doesn't want to give in on the part about tax hikes for the rich. bu
to stand against the tax increase. we are 30 days from going over the fiscal cliff . both sides are pointing fingers and blaming each one for the stalemate. but the real losers is you and me, the american taxpayer if the taxpayers can't come to a compromise. steve has more on the part of the grid lock. >> hi, uma. one month away from the critical deadline and there appears to be very little movement to a deal. the president is using the bully pulpit and appeal to the american people and pushing to extend the bush era tax cuts but those making $250,000. a year. democrats want high tax rates for the wealthy. the president stressed the urgency of the situation in the radio address. >> if congress does nothing. every family will see the income taxes go up in the beginning of next year. a family of four will see income taxes rise $2200. we can't let that happen. our families can't afford it and neither can our economy. >> but republicans say the president should quit his campaign mode and come home and take care of business. the latest round of political maneuvering involves pressure
the president for adopting the fox news slogan there and as we get closer to the fiscal cliff, both sides seem to be standing tough and what about the coverage, jim in. >> i think the debate overall that began with simpson bowls saying we should roughly have tax cuts, tax increases, pardon me, and spending cuts and so the media narrative is sort of, can we get simpson bowls through a recalcitrant republican congress? and what's changed though, i think it's really a role call, daniel new house and mary anne shiner, says simpson and bowls are no longer part of the discussion and it's now morphed into the tax increase and democrats lost interest in the taxing and can we put them on compromise on simpson-bowles and i think so far, the media with exception of a few reporters haven't caught on, but we see charles krauthammer, andrea tantaros, watch out. you're being snookered. >> and pushing republicans towards tax increases and john boehner said we're up for revenue-- >> as several have pointed out the democrats won the election and that means that there are consequences and financial consequences
avoid the fiscal cliff. as if that was not bad enough, according to a recent gallup poll, only 18% of americans say they approve of the job that lawmakers are doing on capitol hill. and does the republican party's hope for 2016 lie deep in the heart of texas? that's the buzz about state senator-elect ted cruz, who says the gop needs to be more articulate in its message and rebrand itself under a banner he calls, quote, and remember these words. you'll hear them again, "opportunity conservatism." opportunity conservatism. even though his second inauguration is weeks away, president obama is prepping for another campaign. this one to raise money to build his official library. presidential libraries are a chance for every leader of the free world to shape his or her legacy. while it's an honorable project, it takes years of planning and a whole lot of money to do it. >>> well, could the end be near? new indications the administration sees the end of the war on terror. what does that mean for detainees at guantanamo bay? we'll have that next. is a unive. but when i was in an accident.
to see this country go off the fiscal cliff. there's obviously too much at stake not only politically but for the lives and welfare of americans. i think that's foremost in their mind, even given all the politics. so thelma and louise, whatever conspiracy theories we see right now, they might be justified because we're at a standoff at least publicly right now as we head into december, alex. >> mike viqueira at the white house, thanks for that. >>> joining me for more front page politics, perry bacon junior and political contributor for the "washington post." perry, the president's plan is pretty ambitious. what is the strategy here? >> the strategy is to move this debate to the left. i mean, a lot of times you saw in these first four years obama would kind of start in the center on a plan and then the republicans could move to the right a little bit. in this plan, obama knows republicans don't support stimulus money. they don't support $1.6 trillion in taxes. he's saying i won the election. we're going to start with a plan pretty far to the left and move slightly from there. he's pla
of americans will blame a gop-held house of representatives if we do indeed go off a fiscal cliff. so he's coming into this with basically a list of demands without making any concessions. >> he'll be blamed historically. if he has a second recession on his watch, the history will be written that he presided over two recessions. that's why i refer to him as herbert hoover. [ overlapping speakers ] >> he can't play that game. he can bluff but he can't play that game. >> it's not a bluff. this is not a bluff. >> you think he would take a second recession? >> well, a second recession? >> if all the tax cuts are repealed. all of them. we're going into recession. that's why the congressional budget office said. you think he would risk a second recession that would destroy his second term? >> i think he understands the law of the land today is that everybody gets a tax increase. he's trying to give 98% of the public a tax reduction and essentially the republican party states its position rather that larry ellisson get a tax cut. >> you want to raise the top tax rate. what i'm saying is will he
you feel about that? >> how i feel, i'm 100% confident we'll resolve the fiscal cliff pretty much a day or two before christmas. what is happening now the public posturing that has to happen in a negotiation so that each side can make their base happy as people move to the middle. once they get behind closed doors and recognize that they have enough good ideas on the table, they'll pick the best ones of those and meet somewhere in the middle to get us somewhere between where the president started and where the republicans would like to end up. i think that's what the american people want. i think what the president has tried to do is make sure that the american people understand what the impact will be if we don't reach a solution and, therefore, he's using that outside end strategy which he didn't use last time, which i'm glad he's using this time. >> we should note here for our viewers that you are a campaign contributor. you donated to the obama campaign. before we get out of here, i want your thoughts that the president is anti-business. a label that he has had to wear for som
the american people what the risks exposed with the fiscal squibb on time, it wants be outraged that it's generated. the fiscal cliff is a problem. you go over the cliff and the consequences can be beautiful% of gdp growth due to automatic cuts by six or $700 billion. the day after that, the market could fall seven or 800 points but washington will get the message. what i fear and what i think is the risk is that they will fix it with a patch that is short-term, it's not substantive, it doesn't have a lot of nutritional content to it and we are going to be right back in again and again. markets will lose confidence. we will gradually lose our global credibility as an economic leader. we might see our credit rating damaged more over time. and it is the slow defense of the united states that is the real risk. the fiscal cliff is something that can be fixed fairly easily. >> host: finally, i would like to go back, david rothkopf come to your comments about government. national government being neanderthal it. there was a throwaway line of sight while we are still organized as nation states
be for these secret discussions about the fiscal cliff if any within had worked. we have a history repleat with failure. i agree, it should be out in the open. >> first of all, these secret talks violate the principle of american government that would be open to every city county school board has open meeting laws you are not supposed to be meeting in secret. the argument has been like you said the only way get things done. we've gone two years and nothing has gotten done. it certainly is contrary to good public policy. >> greta: why do we continue to accept failure? don't the people working on this, we've been talking about this 18 months and we've had secret talks gang of six, eight, it has not worked maybe we ought to try something new like doing it out in the open? >> harry reid refused to bring up a budget, you and i have talked about that before. why? because he did not want a public discuss and did not want the public to layout a firm plan for how to fix our future it left us having to try desperately dramatic deadlines try to reach agreement among -- with a pew people in meetings n
december 1st, alex, and we have exactly one month now to avert the fiscal cliff and avert what everybody agrees would be economic catastrophe. of course that combination of $500 billion, a half a trillion dollars in extra taxes for americans, about $2200 just next year alone for the average family. $100 billion in spending cuts, automatic spending cuts, part of that sequester, from the deal that we went through last year that we took right up to the last minute. so, there are two things that are clear here after the president's proffer, one the president and the white house feel as though they have the upper hand here, there's no question about it. number two, they're playing hardball. number three, i'll add a third one, we are in the preliminary stages, believe it or not, as we enter this final month. here are the basic outlines of what the president is proposing, $1.6 trillion in new revenues. of course most of that, or at least a little better than half of it comes from raise being taxes on the top 2%, something the president campaigned on, something that the white house is now doubli
does this affect the average american? especially as we are having these fiscal cliff discussions in washington figuring out who is getting tax breaks cutting loopholes and so forth. >> the reality is we spend close to a trillion dollars on the year assistance to the poor, cash, food housing medical care that does not include social security and medicare. that's about $9,000 for each recipient. 100 million people receive this aid. it's a huge amount of spending. it's ridiculous to pretend that we can spend all that money and still have kids that don't have food to eat all over the country. this is really an advertising tool poverty measure and advertising tool for expanding the welfare state and spreading the wealth. by pretending that there is a massive amount of hardship that really doesn't occur anymore in our society. >> perhaps not getting the resources to those who truly need it the most. robert rector, senior fellow at the heritage foundation. thank you for being on this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up on the show, it's been over a month since they met with fema and the
correspondent mike viqueira. what can you make of this? fiscal cliff talks are they a nonstarter? >> i tell you, you listen to everything that is being said publicly. you see the president there. it's clear that the election, yes, is over. but the campaign goes on here. you know, i really believe that there two things that are clear from the white house to republicans. we are still in preliminary stages here, which is the good news, considering they are far apart. number two, the white house clearly feels it has the upper hand. it came with the $1.6 billion in new revenues and that's twice what the president was talking about before the election. republicans, obviously, rejecting it out of hand. we all heard by now republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell laughed at it. there you see some of the provisions there. $600 billion in savings. some of it from medicare, another 50 billion in spending and new spending on infrastructure and stimulus spending. that's something that republicans aren't going to want to go to. the two sides are far apart. here we are on december 1st, the clock is tic
the president and republicans will resume. congress is headed home for the weekend, with the fiscal cliff deadline now just one month away. >> brown: still to come on the newshour: the fight over the filibuster; the state of the aids epidemic; shields and brooks; and the age of an american landmark. but first, the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: by the thousands, egyptians poured into the streets today to protest against president mohammed morsi. they attacked morsi's move to assume sweeping new powers and condemned a new constitution that was approved overnight by the president's islamist allies. opposition leaders joined the vast crowds in cairo's tahrir square today, and they vowed their protest would be open- ended. >> the message is clear. no one should think that the egyptian people are not capable. the egyptian people have moved from the level where they were told what to do to the level of real sovereignty. the egyptian people have to be heard. they have to consider the opinion of the egyptian people on any political decision. >> sreenivasan: the dr
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